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Thursday, April 28, 2011

Setup profiles

When I started with scooters & tuning I did asked myself a numerous of times “which exhaust is suited for my cylinder and what size of carb should I take; I don’t want to spend money on parts that don’t work well with my setup”.  

Over the years I gained a lot of knowledge by reading and trail & error. To answer these questions I have come up with a list with different profiles for matching setups.

These profiles help you to check which cylinders and exhausts match and what size carburetor is suited for those combinations. For the parts mentioned in the different profiles I know that they work together.

Note that we are talking about stock (untuned) cylinders. Tuning a cylinder from profile 4, might upgrade it to profile 5 performance making it suitable for profile 5 exhausts/carburetors. This is just a guideline, so it's possible that other combination will work too.

Profile 1

Cylinders

- Original 50cc
- Polini 50cc cast iron
- Malossi 50cc cast iron 
- Hebo 50cc cast iron 
- Top Performances 50cc cast iron  [Minarelli]
- DR 50cc cast iron  [Minarelli]

Exhausts

- Original
- Sito +
- Giannelli Nardo/Shot
- Giannelli Nr-X [Minarelli]
- Giannelli Pro 6/ Pro Cee
- Giannelli Reverse
- Polini For Race
- Polini Funky
- Doppler
- Yamashi S2
- Yasuni Z
- Yasuni R
- Leo Vince Sprinter
- Leo Vince ZX
- Bidalot S2
- Hebo Gara/ 104
- Tecnigas Next / R
- Tecnigas Basic
- Kundo Kinetic
- Metra Kit / Metra Kit Series II
- Arrow Basic
- Arrow Performer
- Samba
- R-force
- Stage 6 PRO replica

Carburetors

- Original [12mm / 14mm]
- 17.5 mm Dell’Orto

Profile 2

Cylinders

- Polini Evolution 50cc alu
- Malossi MHR 50cc alu
- Malossi MHR Team 50cc alu
- Hebo Alu NG 50cc alu
- Stage 6 50cc alu

Exhausts

- DPR [50cc-spec]
- Yasuni Carrera 20
- Bidalot Carrera 20
- Polini Evolution 50
- Malossi MHR Team 50

Carburators

- 17.5mm Dell’Orto
- 19mm Dell’Orto
- 21mm Dell’Orto
- 24mm Mikuni

Profile 3

Cylinders

- Polini 70cc cast iron
- Polini 70cc Corsa cast iron 
- Malossi Sport 70cc cast iron
- Hebo 70cc cast iron
- Airsal 70cc alu
- Top Performances Trophy 70cc cast iron 
- DR 70cc cast iron 
- Metra Kit 70cc cast iron 
- Stage 6 streetrace 70cc
- Stage 6 PRO 70cc

Exhausts

- Polini For Race
- Yasuni R
- Giannelli Nardo/Shot
- Hebo Gara/ 104
- Metra Kit Sport Production
- Hebo 70cc Competition
- Bidalot S2
- Stage6 PRO
- Tecnigas RS70
- Laser X-pro

Carburators

- Origineel [12mm / 14mm]
- 17.5mm Dell’Orto
- 19mm Dell’Orto
- 21mm Dell'Orto

Profile 4

Cylinders

- Malossi MHR Replica 70cc alu
- Hebo Alu NG 70cc alu
- Hebo Alu / Athena / Eurocilindro 70cc alu
- Gilardoni 70cc alu
- Polini Alu W 70cc alu [Piaggio]
- Top Performances Due Plus 70cc cast iron [Minarelli]
- Athena [T-port] 70cc alu
- Hebo [T-port, old type] 70cc alu
- Metra Kit Sport Production 70cc alu
- Airsal T6 70cc alu
- Stage 6 Racing 70cc

Exhausts

- Polini For Race
- Polini Evo Cross
- Polini Evo 5/6/7/8-serie
- Giannelli Nardo/Shot
- Yasuni R
- Yasuni/Bidalot Carrera 16
- Hebo Racing I
- Jolly Moto
- Jolly Moto SP
- Arrow Limited Series
- Stage 6 R1200
- TJT Racing [pia]
- Tecnigas RS70

Carburtors

- 17.5mm Dell’Orto
- 19mm Dell’Orto
- 21mm Dell’Orto
- 24mm Mikuni/Toppreformance

Profile 5

Cylinders

- Metra Kit Pro Race
- Metra Kit Pro Race 2
- Malossi MHR 70cc
- Malossi MHR Team 70cc
- Malossi MHR Team 7T 70cc
- Malossi MHR Team 7T – Factory Tuned 70cc
- Malossi MHR Speed Replica 70cc [Piaggio]
- Malossi MHR Cross 70cc
- Polini Evolution 70cc
- Polini Evolution 2 70cc
- Polini Evolution 3 70cc
- Polini BIG Evolution (85mm conrod)
- Hebo Manston 70cc
- Hebo Manston 2 70cc
- Stage 6 R/T 70cc
- TJT Racing [mina]

Exhausts

- Malossi MHR Team 70
- Malossi MHR Team 2000
- Malossi MHR Team 2004 [Piaggio]
- Malossi MHR Team 2006 [Minarelli]
- Polini Evolution 5-serie
- Polini Evolution 6-serie
- Yasuni/Bidalot Carrera 16
- Yasuni/Bidalot Carrera 20
- Yasuni/Bidalot Carrera 21
- Yasuni/Bidalot Carrera 30
- Hebo Racing II
- Hebo Racing IV
- Metra Kit Pro Race
- Metra Kit Pro Race 2
- DPR [70cc editions]
- Stage 6 R1400
- XSH ROOST 70cc exhaust

Carburators

- 19mm Dell’Orto [Black Edition]
- 21mm Dell’Orto [Black Edition]
- 25mm Dell’Orto
- 26mm Dell’Orto
- 28mm Dell’Orto
- 24mm Top Performances/Mikuni Flatslide
- 28mm Keihin/Hebo
- 28mm OKO/Koso
- Ibea [kartcarb, different sizes]
- HHC [kartcarb, different sizes]
- Tillotson [kartcarb, different sizes]
- Baroni [kartcarb, different sizes]
- JHC [kartcarb, different sizes]

Profile 6

Cylinders

- 2Fast4Race [78cc; 47,6mm x 44mm]*
- 2Fast4Race [86cc; 50mm x 44mm]
- TCR; Team Cristofolini Racing [80cc; 47,6 x 45mm]
- TCR; Team Cristofolini Racing [ 90cc; 50mm x 46mm]*
- Malossi Big Bore Kit [77cc; 50mm x 39,3/39,2mm]*
- Malossi Big Bore Kit [86cc; 50mm x 44mm]*
- Polini Big Bore kit (83cc; 52mm x 39,2mm(Minarelli)/39,3mm(Piaggio)]*
- Polini Big Bore Kit [93cc; 52mm x 44mm]*

*Bore x Stroke

Exhausts

- Malossi MHR Team 2004/2006 [Piaggio]
- Malossi MHR Team 2006 [Minarelli]
- Malossi MHR Team Big Bore exhaust
- Yasuni/Bidalot Carrera 21
- Yasuni/Bidalot Carrera 30
- JS DPR Exhaust
- TRT 2Fast exhaust
- Team Cristofolini Exhaust
- XSH ROOST 77cc/86cc exhaust
- Polini BIG Evolution exhaust

Carburators

- 28mm Dell’Orto
- 28mm Keihin/Hebo
- 28mm OKO/Koso
- 30mm OKO/Koso
- 32mm OKO/Koso
- 33mm Keihin PJ
- 34mm OKO/Koso
- Ibea [kartcarb, different sizes]
- HHC [kartcarb, different sizes]
- Tillotson [kartcarb, different sizes]
- Baroni [kartcarb, different sizes]
- JHC [kartcarb, different sizes]

3 comments:

  1. This post is very good for beginner.

    I just read your post on scooterforum.net. There was Monster NRG. It's impressive.

    Anyway Thank you for information. I am watching this blog.

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  2. Hi Maniasite,

    Thank you for your comment! The NRG is no more unfortunately. You can expect a new project soon!!

    Bram

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  3. Hellon Big b NRG , I want to buy Due plus ,but I have c21, arreche 24 mm , motoforce evo 85 mm +spacer, polini speed control . I read on the internet that due+ + c21 is not a god combination. give me advice . thanks. please answer me

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